Hi Jens, It looks like an interesting circuit - maybe you could give an explanation of how it works - According to Microchip's programming specification Iddp (PIC Current while Programming) is 20 mA and Ipp (Current sunk at _MCLR during Programming) is 50 mA. I'm surprised that an RS-232 port can source this much current. Good work, I'm interesting in learning more about it. myke >I am working on a RS232 powered Production Quality Programmer, look at >http://www.ebar.dtu.dk/~c888600/newpic3.htm. Does anyone like to make / >sell PCB for this programmer? > >Regards, >Jens Dyekjfr Madsen > > "My ancestors didn't spend millions of years clawing their way to the top of the food chain, just so I could become a vegetarian"