To: Steve Davidson The reason I make my own boards is that I can turn the board including layout in about 2 hours. The quality is not high. It verifies my designs before I spent $$$ on the final professional output from Advanced Circuits ( a very good prototyping house) try sales@advancedcircuits.com (Denver, CO) Gus Calabrese -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WFT Electronics wft@frii.com http://www.frii.com/~wft Gus Calabrese 303 321-1119......voicemail Lola Montes 1799 Uinta Street Denver, CO 80220 EMERGENCY: 791 High Street Estes Park, CO 80517 if no success with wft@frii.com, try .... wft@bigfoot.com