At 04:22 PM 5/2/97 +1000, you wrote: >I was wondering how do any of you program SMT PIC's? > >We are using a 16C84 in a current design, and we don't have enough room to >do in-circuit programming. Is there a common ZIF socket for programming the >18 pin 16C84 SOIC parts with the PICSTART? Or is there another way to >program them easily? Parallax has an SMT adapter for their board. A friend has mounted such an adapter so that it plugs into the regular LIF place on the programmer. Both work great. For 12C parts, I'm cheap and had to resort to soldering wires onto the SMT part, burning it, then soldering it into the board. Andy ================================================================== Andy Kunz - Montana Design - 409 S 6th St - Phillipsburg, NJ 08865 Hardware & Software for Industry & R/C Hobbies "Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down!" ==================================================================