John Doe wrote about several things, including: >> ..cut... An RS232 programing board..cut... > >Not a whole lot of clues here. Basically any PC based board will work but >the software is is the issue. At one point in time a long time ago I built >David Tait's 16C84 programmer for the parallel port and ported the software. >It worked but was flaky. I bought a PicStart 16B and started using Microchip's >DOS development system under DOSEMU. It works so well I never really took the >time to change back. > >Honestly I'm partial to the parallel port solution because there are no >port dependancies required to make it work. Generally the RS-232 programming >solutions steal power from the port, which doesn't have to gurantee to >deliver 12V to the board. > >..cut.. See David Tait's page http://www.man.ac.uk/~mbhstdj/piclinks.html for pointers to several parallel and serial types. He's also got a zipped FAQ file in there somewhere for people whose programmers don't work. Parallel ports on PCs are NOT all the same, the latest IEEE 1284 type can cause problems - I certainly had some (see http://www.man.ac.uk/~mbhstdj/kitfix.html). (Anyone without Web access I can email details on request.) While any RS232 unit either has to drive handshake lines to achieve the desired functions or has to incorporate a control PIC to be a true serial interface, at least the latter type can be debugged using a simple terminal emulator. And a three-line (Tx, Rx, Gnd) serial cable isn't going to have length or termination problems. The stand-alone vs independantly powered unit is another issue. Port-powered has to be the ideal, but to what extent can it be achieved reliably across ports from a wide range of suppliers? Anyone got experience? Tim Forcer tmf@ecs.soton.ac.uk Department of Electronics & Computer Science The University of Southampton, UK The University isn't responsible for my opinions