Hi, > I agree with you that Elektor Magazine have high quality projects but > there is one catch! They _NEVER_ list or make the source code available > for download on their MCU projects. You have to buy preprogrammed MCU > or EPROM form them (read expensive). This is one _MAJOR_ misstake IMHO > since by reading and tweaking with others source code you are able to > learn a lot... I'm glad to see that other peaple feal like me about this magazine. I get this magazine for over 10 years now, but lately, it became too comertial for me and most of the projects are imposible to be built or use ideas for some other project without buying a project component from them. they also publish literature that claim to be of high quality, but, last time I got a book out of their new ELEKTOR ELECTRONICS LIBRARY regarding the ST62, it was full with errors, typing errors and was of lower quolity then basic Microchip documentation. I returned the book with a long list of complaines, they returned the mony, but, did not bothered to answer my complaines. Chaipi \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo-------------------------------------- ! ! ! Chaipi Wijnbergen ! ! Electronics/Computer Eng. M.Sc. Tel : +972-8-9343079 ! ! Optical Imaging Laboratory Fax : +972-8-9344129 ! ! Brain Research Center Email : chaipi@tohu0.weizmann.ac.il ! ! Weizmann Institute of Science URL : http://www.weizmann.ac.il/~chaipi ! ! Rehovot 76100 ISRAEL IPhone : chaipi ! ! ! ------------------------------------Oooo.-------------------------------------- .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_)