>> With CCS you need the 1 year maintenance contract. > I didn't think it was a reasonable price. Shoot, it only takes > $95 a year to get a better MSVC++ package, and the subscription > is a lot better. I don't know where you shop, but I've never been able to buy Microsoft Visual C++ for anywhere near $95. And the subscription program is history. Microsoft didn't even have the decency to fulfill existing subscriptions to their end. I got notified in a letter from them explaining the refund program. Guess they weren't making enough profit off their developer base. Lee Jones