I don't know near as much as you guys already do about eprom programmers and the timing etc.... So it would probably be a long while before i get something like that done...being that i have too much homework because my teachers like torturing seniors in High School...:) If anyone has some free time...and eprom programmer made from a pic chip would be really neat...and if you were able to keep the cost down....you mught be able to sell a good kit....i would sure buy it.... one of my old electronics now has the article with the 8031 and if i get about 40 or 50 bucks...i'll probably buy it..... thanks for your info...