Corne I have had the same problem. It seems that there is a bug in the MPLAB and PICSTART Plus software such that the code protect register is occasionally blown in error. When this happens the chip is no longer useable. Because this bug is known by MicroChip, you may be able to shame them into replacing the affected chips. Lots of luck. Joe ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Erasing PIC 14000 Author: pic microcontroller discussion list at SMTP Date: 3/17/97 2:49 AM Hi Dudes I am having a problem erasing my Pic 14000 widowed device. I have two of them and both doesn't want to be erased by the UV light.I have programmed both of them at most ten times,if that much. Now the MPLAB software just tells me the device is not clean, and I have been placing them under the light for about 15mins or longer. It doesn't get damaged that quiqly ,even when you leve it in the eraser too long??Or does it ? Thanks Corne