>I've two windowed 12C508's with the code protection bit set. Are they >destined for the scrap heap or not? I erased them overnight, and was >able to program them, but when I placed them in a circuit in which >the OTP version works fine, I have no joy. Try covering the window. The chips are very sensitive to light. FWIW, this is a very useful time to have those old black write-protect tabs from the ancient floppy media. Andy ================================================================== Andy Kunz - Montana Design - 409 S 6th St - Phillipsburg, NJ 08865 Hardware & Software for Industry & R/C Hobbies "Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down!" ==================================================================