Sorry to send this to the list but maybe someone out there can help me?!! I have been trying for about a month to get off the piclist I have tried everyone's ideas and also have the original instructions that you get when you sign up. Nothing works, I signed up on a dial-up connection and now have a dedicated t-1 line for all of our companies email. I have tried to unsubscribe through the old way the new way and from home and from everywhere and nothing works. I surely hope this is not the Hotel California and that someone out there can either unsubscribe me or give the list managers email. I dont like bombing the list like this but I am really frustrated. Thanks in advance for any help. Cory D. Raak Electronics Technician PCB Developer Gentex Corporation Email coryr@gentex.com "You either do or do not. There is no try." Yoda