Hallo, I have a problem with the Pic 16C84 protect chip.If I use the system describe in the net to remove the protection (Vdd +13,5 and reprogramming OFF the Code Protection)a lot of Chip are DEAD!!A few there's still a program but if it's impossible read or write a chip.And others are KO!I ave see the page of Interesting Device from Justin Farrell and there's a PIC2PIC copier/busters vithout PC and very very simple.You know this system?You know another system simple and secure? Tank you for your interest. Best regards Lazzeri Marco mc@versilia.toscana.it