I designed a clock which was published in a magazine here some time ago. It was PIC based and fairly popular, but costly. It used a 40 X 7 matrix of LED's, (The expensive part), to display the time. However, instead of displaying dull old digital, it displayed the time just as you would say it. ie. 10:15 - 1/4 past 10 5:45 - 1/4 to 6 1:30 - 1/2 past 1 7:00 - 7 o'clock, Midnight, Noon etc. This concept may be an interesting time keeper for the propellor clock idea. Tony Just when I thought I knew it all, I learned that I didn't.