At 01:04 PM 3/12/97 -0600, you wrote: >Hello, > > I am a beginner in programming pics. I do have an electronics >background. I was going to build Octavio's ProPic programmer, and put >it off. I have now decided to build it. > > > I want to start off slow and inexpensive, being a student. What I >want to know, is where can I get the software to create a hex file in >order to program the pic16c84? > > >Brian > Hi! Try this site: http://hobbes.king.ac.uk/matt/pic/ There is a very cheap and good programmer to the c84. Hardware and software. I have used it many times and it works. Johan joha1359@hem1.passag en.se