John Payson wrote: > The 16C54 requires that you control--literally--all of its pins > during programming (well, Vss remains grounded, but...) One person > has posted on the list that they in fact designed a circuit which > would allow ISP'ing the 54 even under those conditions,.... That was me. > .... but I doubt such a thing would usually be practical. You're correct... The method I came up with isn't suited for general-purpose programming at all. If in-circuit programming is required, I'd recommend staying away from the 16C5x parts. -Andy === Andrew Warren - fastfwd@ix.netcom.com === Fast Forward Engineering - Vista, California === === Custodian of the PICLIST Fund -- For more info, see: === http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2499/fund.html