At 10:04 PM 7/03/97 -0500, you wrote: >>Thanks for this and I will certainly try this improved resolution. But with >>the 16C71/74 I understand that the range input is that of the supply (5 >>volts) and so to get resolutions of 10 microvolts in 5 volts I need 20 bits. >>If I could scale the range to read 0 to 200 millivolts then 16 bits is >>enough. Alternatively I need 20 bits on an ADC. > >USE THE Vref PIN TO BRING YOUR REFERENCE DOWN!!! You can go to 2.5V >(Vcc/2, actually). I've found best results with Vref < 3.0V. > >>This ADC/PIC/etc needs to be able to fit in a tube(with a pH probe, >>conductivity probe and temperature sensor) which has external dimensions of >>12mm diameter and 300mm long. This is why I require something small. > >Cool. My brother was working as a waste treatment plant chemist for a >while, and I did a model of their treatment system. We had pH, >conductivity, temp, and all kinds of other sensors in the system, and a PC >to control it all. He ended up with a neat gadget for measuring certain >pollutants in a handheld size, but never marketed it. It may not be too late. I think it is a pity that these very useful devices sit idle on the shelf and they are re-invented every so often. He may like to take a stab at marketing it. What does it do? Thanks for the VREF solution. I missed this a sI was not considering the 16c71/74 as they are too larger for my application. I would like one of the new PIC12C5XX series with the ADC built in but understand they will not be available until sometime in April/May. I still may be able to use these. Thanks again, Peter Neosystems