Hi Tim Kerby, I have a PLC library for PIC from ELECTOR ELECTRONICS. Such library will allow you to introduce the pic even though assembly is not use. Still the assembler and simulator are used. if the studients want, they can continue to learn the assembler after they know how to use the development tools. Chaipi \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ----------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo-------------------------------------- ! ! ! Chaipi Wijnbergen ! ! Electronics/Computer Eng. M.Sc. Tel : +972-8-9343079 ! ! Optical Imaging Laboratory Fax : +972-8-9344129 ! ! Brain Research Center Email : chaipi@tohu0.weizmann.ac.il ! ! Weizmann Institute of Science URL : http://www.weizmann.ac.il/~chaipi ! ! Rehovot 76100 ISRAEL IPhone : chaipi ! ! ! ------------------------------------Oooo.-------------------------------------- .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_)