>Does anyone out there want to convert the c into whatever the smart cards >use. I was told that the sky cards were basicly pics???? Original SKY cards are not based on PIC and they certainly can't be easily reprogrammed - however, almost all pirate cards for the Eurocrypt are based on PIC16c84. Most people today use the PIC16c84 smartcard made by the major smartcard manufacturers for hacker supply stores. The software is available everywhere on Internet, with a built-in feature for the user to update the encryption key in the card, using the D2MAC/Eurocrypt on-screen menus and the satellite receiver's remote control. There is also PIC software freely available to decode 9 Videocrypt2 channels and 2 Videocrypt1-channels. No Sky channels though. The Sky pirate cards are expensive and based on processors with higher security than PIC16c84, so that no competing hackers can steal the code and make their own. More PIC pirate card info available on http://www.tripnet.se/~glenn/s.htm. (Note: No DSS info available!) Glenn SATELLITE HACK SERVICES Attachment converted: wonderlandfive:WINMAIL.DAT (????/----) (0000C214)