Does someone know the common problems & solutions for the COM84 programmer? My attempts to program PIC16F84 with COM84 has been very unsuccesful. I build my COM84 with instructions found from http://hobbes.king.ac.uk/matt/pic/prog.html. Is that circuit ok? When I write something with pip02 program (I use com84.exe driver, does it work with 16F84) I get programming error. Reading the chip always tells me 3f ff stuff. Even that the circuit is very simple, I tried it again: I asked my friend to make the COM84, we used a fresh PIC and his computer. Nada, same symptoms. But I think that there is something strange going on, because while programming, my multimeter shows only about 5-6V as the voltage of MCLR. As far as I know, it can't be right? It should be higher? Is the problem too low voltage, possibly caused by lame serial ports? (but if it's so, lame RS ports are very common; I have tried two different mother board integrated and one separate adapter card) Or is MCLR switched on/off during write procedure? Please, can you tell me what is going wrong? /Taiska (novadays known as Desperado :(