Sorry if this is a repost but I got an 'Undeliverable' message with the first one. I am using the same combination of hardware & software. I choose 16F84 as the device and it programs perfectly every time. Be carefull though. V1.14 has some bugs. One is that the configuration bits are not picked up from your hex file correctly and the other is you cannot compile in MPLAB (Under windows) if you have PIP02 V1.14 open in another window. PIP02 doesn't close the hex file so MPLAB cannot access it. This wasn't the case with the older version. Your problem must be your programmer. Good luck Dennis ____________________________________________________ FROST - Electronic Design, Manufacture & Consulting. Dennis Frost Tel: +27 331 965125 Cel: +83 2275216 Email: dennis.frost@pixie.co.za Pietermaritzburg, South Africa Products: Medical Motivational equipment Timers for food processing Random number generator Temperature controllers ____________________________________________________ PS Anyone looking for someone in the hardware/software development fields, I am available. I intend leaving South Africa for the West coast of the US early this year. ---------- > From: Tapani T. Salmi > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: PIC16F84 COM84 programming? > Date: 25 February 1997 06:01 > > Hi! > > Is it possible to program PIC16F84 chips with COM84-programmer and PIP > software(http://sistudio.com/sistudio/download.html)? PIP 1.14 claims that > it can program 16F84. > > The problem is that easiest PICs to get was 16F84 and I made COM84 to > program them. Programming don't write anything to the chips, but reading > seems to be OK. (code: 3fff 3fff.... eeprom: ff ff ff ff, I guess that > these are right for new PIC) Is the COM84 unable to program them or is my > COM84 just buggy? > > /Taiska