Since your in austalia, you may want to look at Newfound Electronics WARP-17 programmer. I bought it in the states for $79 assembled. Don't know what the aus. price would be. Take the links from www.itutech.com to the Newfound page for more info. BTW - I have a Macintosh driver for the Warp-17 that includes an assembler, disassembler, editor, and simulator in the package! Shareware @ ftp.srv.net/pub/users/kxc Regards, Kevin Coble --------------------------------------------------- This message was created and sent using the Cyberdog Mail System --------------------------------------------------- 10GenevaSince your in austalia, you may want to look at Newfound Electronics WARP-17 programmer. I bought it in the states for $79 assembled. Don't know what the aus. price would be. Take the links from www.itutech.com to the Newfound page for more info. BTW - I have a Macintosh driver for the Warp-17 that includes an assembler, disassembler, editor, and simulator in the package! Shareware @ ftp.srv.net/pub/users/kxc Regards, Kevin Coble --------------------------------------------------- This message was created and sent using the Cyberdog Mail System ---------------------------------------------------