In <19970203.221309.4567.0.HZP_Electronics@juno.com>, on 02/03/97 at 10:45 PM, Bill Rodgers said: >I have bought the WARP3 from ITU. So far, I have only programmed 16c54 >'s with good success. There is a book which comes with the WARP3 which >is helpful. I have been told that there is work going on developing >12c50x programming software. Of course a socket adapter will be required >for the WARP3 which will cost some $. Good luck! I was told that the inclusion of the 12C50x parts would require a firmware change. Other than these parts and the 17Cxx units for which the Warp 17 is designed, the Warp 3 is a very cost effective programmer capable of handling the wide range of PIC devices. For more details on the Newfound Electronic programmers, here's a couple of URL's; DonTronics http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~donmck/ Newfound Electronics http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~newfound/ Either site will get you a pointer to the other one. Both sites have the current release of the Warp-3 programming software available, as well as the beta level upgrades. (Also good PDF and HTML details on the software operation of these drivers.) The ITU site doesn't have much information available on these programmers. Getting the current software or programming manual from one of these Australian sites should answer any questions about the Warp-3. The ultimate source for details is Jim Robertson over at Newfound Electronics. My own opinion - - I have a Warp-3 and like it very much. The user interface is very straighforward and the software drivers are kept current in response to new products and errata sheets from Microchip. The latest software is always available on the 'net. Hope this helps. Best regards, Mark //Mark Timpany mtimpany@broadcast.net //Jakarta, Indonesia US Toll Free Fax 1-888-316-2357