> > I am a new PIC programmer, and I have a PICstart 16B1 programmer. I > have been using a C84, and the book that I have been using (Easy PIC 'n') > says that the F84 and the C84 are effectively identical. I know that the > F84 has FLASH EEPROM. SO here is my question. Will the F84 be programmed > by a board that can program the C84 (specifically the microchip PICstart 16B1 As the book says, they are essentially identical. The Flash is simply a change in marketing terminology. It's still the same EEPROM based chip as the 16C84. What really changed were a couple of bits in the configuration mask. Read the data sheets for the two very carefully to see how they changed. BAJ