Hello Everyon, I wanted to comment on the great CCS C debate. I started using the PCM complier when I first got started in PIC's and it suited my needs fine and allowed me to get up and running with PIC's with a miminum of problems. Personally I think it is a great way for a person who is relatively new to microprocessors to get started fast. After you get a PIC to flash a LED the first time with your own code, it's all downhill from there:) With some experience, PIC assembly not too bad either. Note that I said this was for a person learning Mircroprocessors for the first time, an Assembly expert won't need to ask where to start. Ben, P.S. I owe Perter Cousins and the list an appologize for my duplicate postings. I realized I did this right after I sent it but it I didn't want to waste bandwidth with another appology post.