I have stuck the software on the following site http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/tim.kerby/pic/revenge.zip Put it in C:\ directory and then unzip. The files will go to the right place. If you can't get it from the web then I will send it (it's just with the demand that my phonebill would soar if I sent it to everyone). Keep the mails off the list though pleased as some members don't approve. Note I do not approve of roadrage but this is different - this guy cost me money. Sorry if I offended anyone however. Tim My web pages are at http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/tim.kerby/ My PIC site is at http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/tim.kerby/pic/ It needs your projects!