Further to my question on the 74 programmer, I've read a bit more of the new data sheet and it would appear that if the 'old' programmer were to program the 74A version then it would be a sheer fluke. According to the data sheet the config word has more valid bits available. For code protection to work, bits 13 to 8 need to be set 010101 or 101010. Also the Brown out feature will be enabled or disabled depending on how the programmer is set up as this bit was unavailable on the 74. In light of this it would seem I need either a new programmer or some sort of upgrade. Such is progress. Thanks for the help so far Tony Just when I thought I knew it all, I learned that I didn't.