I was serious. I bought the Picstart Plus last summer because Microchip said it would program ALL their pic chip products. A few months later I find I need to replace/change the firmware in the adaptor to program the new 12C5xx parts. I think it is fair to extrapolate that when Microchip comes out with new PIC parts, further changes will be needed to the firmware. Or maybe there'll never be any new PIC parts? Hmmm... hadn't though of that. _____________________________________________ Lynn Richardson | lrich@qni.com \ Progress Instrument, Inc. | wa0znl.ampr.org | 807 NW Commerce Drive | [44.46.176.3] | Lee's Summit, MO 64086 | | (816)524-4442 F:246-4556 | / --------------------------------------------- On Thu, 19 Dec 1996, Andrew Warren wrote: > Lynn Richardson wrote: > > > Microchip is pushing the Plus now as a replacement for both the 16B1 > > and the 16C as it's supposed to support all the different PIC > > flavors. Of course you have to replace or reprogram the 17C44 in > > the programming adapter every time they come out with a new chip! > > Lynn: > > I can't tell if you were serious or not, but that last sentence is > not true. > > While the early Picstart Plus programmers DID require a firmware > upgrade shortly after they were shipped, it is not Microchip's > intent to require any further upgrades; the existing firmware should > work for all PICs in the foreseeable future. >