In message <15956@d-m-g.demon.co.uk>, Mayes uk writes: >I was always very disappointed that the picstart 16b (with a 28 pin >zif) could not program the 28 pin 16Cxx parts. > >However, all 16B owners should check out Jim Robertsons PHOENIX >project. It turns a 16B into a programmer that can program all >sizes and varieties of PICs. I didn't realise there were so many >PICs available until I looked at the list that the Phoenix will >program. If one does replace the firmware in the 16B, can we still use DOS to drive it and mpasm for our source? What, if anything, do we loose by doing this? It would be nice to be able to program the new 8-pin devices. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK 36.7N97.4W OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Data Communications Group