Lynn Richardson wrote: > > I agree, Chaipi. I have invested in both the 16B and 16C and do NOT want > to be forced to use the Plus (which would be better named the 'Minus') > for their new parts. > > I purchased the Plus last summer so as to have one programmer for all the > Microchip MCUs. What they didn't state in the specifications was that it > REQUIRES Windows and that it has major problems with Windows 95. > My project resulted in the purchase of 10000 PIC16C71s and I think > that rates me an answer. Dear Lynn: I'm not sure what the problem getting an answer is, but I do know that I don't seem to have this problem with Microchip or any other manufacturer. You do have to learn how to be patient, clear in your intentions, and persistent. Most of the successful (that is, experienced) engineers and designers I know have gotten the trick of being good on the phone. I use the Plus programmer under Win95 on several different machines and have had no problems whatsoever. All of the other users I personally know have had the same experience. There is nothing wrong with Win95 from the standpoint of comparison to Dos or Win3.11; they all suffer from infant development syndrome (in comparison to real operating systems such as DEC's or IBM's stuff). Bill Gates is working his way toward the state of the art of 15 years ago for the underlying architecture and implementation. Nevertheless, there are compelling reasons to use Win95 on your machines if possible. As far as using 10000 pieces, I assume that you are either having these programmed by the vendor or you plan to buy a production quality programmer in the future. None of the development tools are recommended for production use. We use PIC processors 10 at a time and Microchip's attitude has been that Time Tech rates a prompt answer to engineering questions. I'm sure they'll extend the same respect to you. -- Tom Rogers VP-R&D Time Tech Inc.