In message PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU writes: > The same apply to supporting the old Picstart 16B & C. it's firmware will > not be updated to support new devices. Instead we need to buy the Picstart > Plus. I also am stuck with both Picstart 16B & Picstart 16C and now need > to buy new programmer. > > I think that Microchip should reconsider this policy and try to help those > how spent mony on development tools. > I was always very disappointed that the picstart 16b (with a 28 pin zif) could not program the 28 pin 16Cxx parts. However, all 16B owners should check out Jim Robertsons PHOENIX project. It turns a 16B into a programmer that can program all sizes and varieties of PICs. I didn't realise there were so many PICs available until I looked at the list that the Phoenix will program. Checkout his web page: http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~newfound regards, Mike Watson