Dudes: I really don't want to spend too much time discussing this topic on the list, but the following may be helpful to anyone contemplating going into my line of work. There's a guy here on the list (he just lurks, though... I think he's posted exactly ONE message) who taught me what I think are the three most important things you need to know about running an engineering-consultation business. Aside from his sure-fire way of knowing exactly WHEN and BY HOW MUCH to adjust your rates for inflation, which I won't describe until I get his permission (and maybe not even then, since it's sorta embarrassing to admit that I set my rates that way), he told me: 1. When an engineer who's only done garage-type development tells you how long it'll take him to perform some task, multiply it by two and bump the unit of time to the next-larger convenient measure. Example: I ask an eager but inexperienced engineer how long it'll take him to change a resistor value on his schematic. He says thirty seconds. I multiply thirty by two and get sixty, then bump the units from seconds to minutes... I come up with sixty minutes, which is about what it'll REALLY take him by the time he's made the change to his schematic, printed it, checked it, noticed that he forgot to update the revision level, bumped the rev, printed it again, checked it again, looked up the new part number and made the change to the BOM, and informed the PCB designer and anyone else who needs to know. This works on big projects, too... Witness the recent back-and-forth list discussions regarding the time that it takes to do an "average" PIC project. One guy says 2 weeks; the next says 4 months. 2. Take only: a) interesting jobs, from b) nice people who c) have money. Once you're established and have a reputation, you'll be offered more work than you can handle... There's no reason, at that point, to settle for anyone who doesn't meet all three of the above-mentioned criteria. When you're first starting out, of course, you may have to take some uninteresting jobs... But don't waste your time working for anyone who fails the "nice people" or "has money" tests. -Andy === Andrew Warren - fastfwd@ix.netcom.com === === Fast Forward Engineering - Vista, California === === === === Custodian of the PICLIST Fund -- For more info, see: === === http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2499/fund.html ===