Kerzer Computers wrote: > > I need the hardware ( schematics ) and software to program these things. Can > someone help me please ? will the one for the c84 work ? > > Gordon Try this site: ======================================================== Octavio Nogueira e-mail: nogueira@mandic.com.br homepage: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tato voice/fax: +55 11 240-6474 "ProPic" The first Production PIC Programmer running in Windows and under US$ 20.00. ======================================================== Good luck and take care. Frank