Hi Gordon, Use propic from noguiera or an589 with antti's soft pip-02. I can't remember their www address by heart but you can get it from their mails in piclist. Barbaros ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Barbaros ASUROGLU - TA2CBA AMPR GATEWAY : 44.176.1.1 Member Of ANTRAK - Amateur Radio Club Of ANKARA - TURKEY Home Page: http://www.antrak.org.tr/~antrak mail to: ta2cba@ampr-gw.metu.edu.tr mail to: ta2cba@antrak.org.tr ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~