Hi guys I used prog84 to program a pic84 with an an589 compatible. and it said erasing,programming,verifying,etc..no problems only the pic is dead the osc (rc) wont osc.The program prog84 wont read and display so I can see what I have actually written. The program pip-02 runs as far as the display and opening files but the read, verify,and other commands do nothing absolutely nothing. I realize this is pathetic and I beg your indulgence.But any help would be appreciated. Tony M.