>So the listserv software supposedly limits posts to 5000 lines by default. I happened to have a copy in the "trash": wc Mail/inbox/#405 9288 24891 575036 Mail/inbox/#405 >In any case, I have changed the listserv preferences to limit postings to >1500 lines (it must be in lines, though K seems a better metric). I looked Since this last little "gift" was greater than 5000 lines, it appears that the listserv doesn't do what it is supposed to, or only does it in certain cases. If the latter is true, then it might cut off useful postings, while still letting this kind of junk through. ==Doug Claar P.S. to Jory: I sent this to the list *and* to you directly, in case the rejection messages mean that my messages aren't really getting through.