>Just started building PCs the "easy" way. I've used the freeware >packages, and they work fine. I'm now using a package from Ultimate >Technologies in the Netherlands ... they have a 500 pin version for $79 >US with schematic capture, autorouter, etc. Very nice. Larry, How 'bout sharing a little more info about this gem with the rest of us? I've downloaded WinDraft and WinBoard, but WinDraft locks my system, and WinBoard is seemingly unstable-- if you click on a part in the module loader that *would* bring your board over the (100) pin limit, *if* it were placed on the board, but instead click on cancel, WinBoard thinks that there are more than 100 pins and won't let you save your file. Same thing if you go over the limit then delete a module which brings you back under the limit-- won't let me save or print my board. This has caused me to get into the habit of saving my file after placing EACH module. Anyway, I'd like to know more about this program that you're using. Sounds like a good deal. -Matt