>Hi, >I'm just inside this topic for my proper use. I fly some electric glider and >now i'm studying a Hi-Tech charger with trickle mode, peak detection, charge >with pulse and controlled current. But this project is waiting in my mind now. >I'm thinking using a 8031 instead a PIC, because 8031 need only an EPROM and I >can just program 16C84, 71 , 54..57, and EPROM that's all. >As these chip seems to have not enought I/O and RAM, (means no RAM extension >except trought I2C), my design will certainly use a 8031. In addition, most of >A/D and D/A converter need a data bus sequence and 8031 have already a built >in one. >But nothing is fixed yet. > >The charger must do: > - delta-V charge, The charge termination method that is usually employed in the industry are: i. minus delta V - This is applicable to NiCD and NiMH batteries although the NiMH has a smaller drop in its terminal voltage upon full charge Resolution required : -8mV/cell (for normal 6V cellular batteries would be around -20~-40 mV) This method is not applicable to the Li-Ion battery ii. dT/dt - This method monitors the rate of change in temperature and is very suitable for NiMH batteries with termination at 0.8C/min. iii. const V, min I - This method is used for the Li-Ion batteries which requires a constant V charge (you can start as const I but must end with const V) as oppose to constant I charge for the NiMH/NiCD. Method is to charge at the rated voltage and monitors the drop in I until a minimum cutoff. iv. max V, max T & timer cutoff - these are provided as a backup in the event of i, ii & iii termination failure. > - pulse charge/measurement Pulse charge are suggested to prevent large crystals formation in batteries with continuous charge. > - cycling a batterie, Cycling basically discharges a battery follow by full charge. Discharging eliminates "memory effect" which are basically battery hysteresis. This is really important only for NiCD batteries. Newer batteries like NiMH and Li-Ion does not require discharge before charge > - discharge with controlled current/voltage This is a bit tricky, pulsed discharge (unless you have other method of controlling I/V) is not recommend as I heard somewhere that it damages the cell materials. > - trickle mode > - allows to charge more than 16 elements with a car batterie Car batteries are made of Lead acids elements, don't have much experience. > - allow to charge a minimum of 2 pack simultaneously with different > parameter, > - record the curve of charge/discharge, (EEPROM or RAM) > - be able to comunicate with a PC I would recommend that you build a big-banged RS-232-C interface to the PC and any data collected on the charge/discharge curve be store on it. > - have a LCD panel, some buttons > LCD based on the Hitachi 44780 are quite good, especially if you use the 4-bit data interface (which saves you 4 I/Os, only 7 required) >As you see, I just begin to think it. Seems to need a minimum: > - 16K RAM/or EEPROM If a PC is used you don't really need that much RAM or EEPROM. > - a 12 bit A/D For NiMH/NiCD charging, I don't think you require this kind of resolution. However, if you plan to charge Li-Ion batteries, it is highly recommended, as a difference in 100mV makes a lot of difference in the full charge capacity of the Li-Ion. > - two 8 bit D/A Why would you need a D/A? > - a PWM power Step down DC-DC convertor under PWM control would be recommended. However, check the maximum frequency of the microcontroller PWM that you are using as it ultimately dictates the size of your filtering components. > - an LCD panel > - a RS232 interface, As above. >About Ni-Mh and Li-Ion, I don't have any documentation and I don't know what >are the >requierment to charge it in the better way. For all "normal" purpose, NiMH/NiCD can be charged in the same way. This is because NiMH batteries are designed to mimic the characteristic of the NiCD. However take note that it has a smaller -delta V termination point. Li-Ion is a totally type of battery. It can take const I charge but must be charged at const V finally. Accuracy of the charging V is crucial. Hope this gives a brief introduction to battery charging technology. Regards, Peter Tiang tiangcfoon@hitachi.com.my