Tjaart van der Walt wrote: >Perhaps we can nag & nag & nag & nag Microchip until they include a >second UART on chips like the 16C74. Doing it in software is a pain in >the butt. Am I alone, or is there anybody else that agree? Tjaart Maybe its time you should consider using the CCS C compiler. I recently started using it and one of the most usefull functions is its capability to add a software serial port on ANY of the pic devices. What a pleasure to be able to use printf statements on devices like the PIC16C84! And if you need two serial ports on one device its no problem at all, because the compiler already caters for that. And its defineteyl not a pain in the butt to implement. I do all my development work now using that compiler and I add printf statements while debugging my software. Once I'm happy that its working I just delete the printf statements and re-compile. Its really worth the $99 that you pay for it. Regards Werner -- Werner Terreblanche Tel +27 21 7102251 Fax +27 21 721278 wterreb@plessey.co.za (work) OR werner@aztec.co.za (home)