Jerome Knapp wrote: > What's the difference between these two programmers? Jerome: Also, the PicStart Plus programs ALL the PICs, from the 8-pin 12C50x to the 17C44. The 16B1 programs only a small subset. Also, the 16B1 doesn't interface directly with MPLAB; it's controlled by a DOS program called MPSTART. On the other hand, the PicStart Plus REQUIRES MPLAB, which means that you can only use it if your PC is running Windows. The PicStart Plus comes in a nice case and satisfies European CE requirements for emitted radiation; the 16B1 is a bare board and doesn't. -Andy === Andrew Warren - fastfwd@ix.netcom.com === === Fast Forward Engineering - Vista, California === === === === Custodian of the PICLIST Fund -- For more info, see: === === http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2499/fund.html ===