Cameron Palmer wrote: > > Sorry I left out a key word in my drowsiness. Programmer. I need the device to > program the chip. I can buy PIC16C84's for $6.50 each but I saw some > programming units going for $3000. I have since started building one from the > directions provided by Microchip. The article is on their web site, article > an589. I estimate the cost of this project under $10. Thank you to all those > that recommended it. What extra functionality am I missing out by not having > the expensive programmer? first of all I'm not a parallax employee . I use the parallax pic16cxx-pgm programmer it's simple,cheap,reliable and the parallax assembler is very helpful I use it under win95 without any problem one point more : I had to buy and develop with it in no time and with the help of the Source Book from Scott Edwards and the applications handbook I managed to finish right on deadline . bye charley