Hi Jacob, > The datasheets is DS30081F page 21: (quote) 'Note: I/O pin has protection diodes > to Vss only.' > I just tried measuring a device, and the datasheet is ofcource correct. Only a > diode to Gnd (Vss) can measured. > One of the advantages of an O/C (or Open Drain) output is that you can switch > between Gnd and a voltage higher than Vcc. Woah boy. Just remember that you are not talking about a ULN2003 relay driver here. The PIC16C/F84(A) could be inadvertently be put into Probramming mode if you pull the _MCLR pin too high (especially when Vcc is low) If you must have a 6V open collector output from say a set of batteries and you know that you chip will reset correctly (open collector reset IC connected to _MCLR then you can probably get away with it even if you put a low drop regulator onto the rest of the IC and run it at 5V. If you want open collector at above supply voltage then put in the transistor and resistor and feel safe. Cheers -- Kalle Pihlajasaari kalle@data.co.za Interface Products Box 15775, Doornfontein, 2028, South Africa +27 (11) 402-7750 Fax: +27 (11) 402-7751