Dave Russell wrote: > Can anyone explain what is new about the FR series of parts such as > the PIC16FR6X. > > I was just curious to know if these are perhaps EEPROM versions of > the older parts. They're not, Dave. You must have missed this explanation that I posted about two weeks ago: The "FR" designation ("Flex-ROM", briefly also called "Fast-ROM" by some Microchip employees) is not a product, per se... It'd be more accurate to call it a SERVICE. When you order FR parts, you send a copy of your object code to Microchip. Within a couple of weeks, they send you a few thousand PICs already programmed with your code (and with a custom silkscreen, if you like). This is just like ordering mask-ROM parts, except that the minimum order quantity is lower and the price is higher (since the PICs they send you are really just OTP parts). If you've ever used Microchip's "SQTP" service, you're already familiar with the whole concept... The only difference is that SQTP parts were programmed at the factory, while FR parts are programmed by Microchip distributors (or, more likely, by an outside contractor hired by the distributor). I don't personally know anyone who's using FR parts... My low-volume clients want the flexibility of OTP parts, while my high-volume clients want the low cost of real ROM parts. However... In order to encourage customers to buy FR parts, I believe that Microchip is pricing them BELOW the cost of OTP parts. This brings up an interesting loophole: What happens if you send them the object code for a completely BLANK device? -Andy Andrew Warren - fastfwd@ix.netcom.com Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2499