Yea, we noticed this too. Send your comments to EDN's micro editor markuslevy@aol.com We did! BTW, try to write a software SPI for the AVR and see how many words of code and what the execution speed would be vs. one for the PIC! BTW2, I personally think the Signetics 8X300 is the first 8-bit RISC. It had a total of 8 instructions. Now THAT'S RISC!. Rgds, Brian. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Atmel claims to have first 8-bit RISC processor??? Author: "Long; Mike" at Internet_Exchange Date: 9/18/96 7:16 PM I saw this as well and the claim even includes a reference to it's Harvard Arch. as well as something about being able to ' directly address 8 Mbyte of program memory.' With a 16 bit instruction? Also claims to have an ANSI C compiler that as you read later in the article will not be available until.....there it is... October from a 3rd party vendor. No RAM? But most of the specs read like a PIC Mike ---------- From: Eric Thompson To: Multiple recipients of list PICLIST Subject: Atmel claims to have first 8-bit RISC processor??? Date: Wednesday, September 18, 1996 4:24PM In the Sept 12 issue of EDN magazine ("Out in Front" section, page 21), there is a press release from Atmel claiming that they have the FIRST 8 bit RISC processors? Atmel calls this line of processors there AVR series, and the first one is the AT90S1200. For more details wait for the Sept 12 issue to appear at http://www.ednmag.com/. (It doesn't seem to be there as of 9/18) I find this to be quite odd because I've always thought of MicroChip as having 8 bit RISC type processors? Is this true?? Or is Atmel just not aware that MicroChip exist? :-) Any thoughts? - Eric Thompson