>I am looking for some decent PCB layout software. I am fed up with SMwork. >WinBoard and WinDraft from Ivex are toys and it's a hell of a time to get >anything working together there and they are only up to 200 holes anyways! >OrCad seems to be the way to go, but it's hard to get it started. Is there >anything out there that does not cost $1,000,000 and can be used for >professional layouts? > >Walter > > Hello, The last 10 years i'm using ULTIboard (of Ultimate Technology, NL) for over 9 years (before i was using SMwork). It is a very good program with a lot of features. There is an internetoffer at the moment; the price is about US$79 excluding VAT. (for the 500 pin version : Challenger Lite Version). You can find/order Ultimate at : www.ultiboard.com Greetings, Harry Hindriks (PE1OXP) Electronics Engineer ***** Life is too short for QRP ***** ----------------------------------------------------------------- H.G. Hindriks Purmerlaan 11 P.O. Box 334 9501 AW Stadskanaal 9500 AH Stadskanaal Tel. +31-599-618462 The Netherlands -----------------------------------------------------------------