I was thinkin maybee you want to help me with these plans. I think you have to code a PIC but I am not sure. I do not know how to do this or do I understand these plans. I have heard that you need a manchester encoded signal or a main05.enc or a main.enc or a source code or something. What a cube does is it turns a cable converter into full service mode. I will give you the plans for free if you help. Please reply to MattH74@aol.com dont just press the reply button Attachment converted: wonderlandthree:cube.zip (pZIP/pZIP) (00006ABF)