There has been such an interest in 16C84 programming lately that readers may like to know I have just issued a kit - Kit 81 - with ALL components (including a 16C84-10/P) & software to start programming. The 16C84 has fast become the entry point for beginners & hobbyists into uC programming. Charles Manning published a design in Electronics Australia, April 1996. It plugs into the parallel port of a PC. Features: - software is only for the 16C84. - software can verify, load & read - EEPROM space, program space & config fuses can be treated separately - separate device Erase command - Test command to test programmer hardware - Vpp under software control - 9V battery powered - 16C8x Data Sheets on floppy disk - INHX8M file format support Full schematic, manual & instructions for beginners supplied. Components to write your first program (flash an LED) also included. So you can build the programmer & test it all in the one session. (You will just need a breadboard & battery.) As a one-time offer to readers here (until the kit gets to my distributors) I offer the Kit at $US20 + postage. This is about half the normal price. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter J. Crowcroft PO Box 88458, Sham Shui Po, Hong Kong Voice: 852-2720 0255. Fax: 852-2725 0610 Email: diykit@hk.super.net Web: http://www.hk.super.net/~diykit -----------------------------------------------------------------------------