>At 01:59 PM 6/17/96 +0100, you wrote: > >>> Generally, the 16C57s erase in two to three minutes but I have not timed it >>> exactly. This is the same with the other 5x devices but NOT so for most of >>> the 16Cxx devices that can take 10 to 30 minutes depending on the eraser and >>> over 2 hours if the code protection is "ON." > >Really? I've never had to go longer than 45 seconds with a PIC16C57. I'm >using a UltraViolet Products (UVP) eraser, and it seems to work very well. >Usually I get a complete erase in 30 seconds. I have gone through many >erase cycles on a lot of chips, so I don't think it's too hard on the PIC's. > >-Todd Peterson > Todd, Well there are erasers and erasers! I have been supprised that PICLISTERS have quoted times about half of what my eraser takes. I too have "thrashed" my 16C57 JWs. They are VERY robust and alway program 100% The only cause of death I have experience with them is a slightly too high Vpp voltage problem. They don't like this but otherwise they are "TANKS!" Regards, Jim