At 09:16 PM 6/5/96 -0500, you wrote: >For what it's worth, I want to strongly DIScourage newcomers from using the >Parallax 8051-style assembler language. You really miss the RISC flavor and >simplicity of the PIC when it is hidden under the 8051 equivalents. Go ahead >and learn it right! I agree with that. I bought the Parallax programer a few years back. I decided to use the Parallax macro's because it was much more familiar, with the Intel assembly language I was used to. But I regreted it when I began to count instruction cycles to control program timing. And when I mixed Parallax macro's with Microchip assembly I sometimes 'jumped' or skiped' in the middle of a Parallax Macro-mine and crashed. That can't happen if you stick to Microchip. It's not that hard to learn. Having said that, I think the Parallax programmer works great, and the manual, materials, and BBS/Ftp support is great too.