> I posted a request for suggestions about which PIC16C84 programmer > to build. I have already received a couple of mime encoded > (LARGE) files. While I am thankful to those who take the trouble > to send the files, I would appreciate a discussion of which > setup is better than the other, and pointers to where they can > be found! Otherwise, I will have to build all the programmers > to see for myself if they work properly or not! Have a look at: http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~donmck There is the free circuit and overlay of a Printer port driven programmer based on the original design by David Tait. There are free software drivers that include a disassembler, and support for the following devices: 61,62,63,64,65,71,73,74,84,620,621, and 622. This design was introduced in Feb 95 and has the advantage of using a 4PDT switch to allow a Program/Run mode for the 84, so it will program an 84 in circuit in around 2 to 10 seconds. About 250 have been built up on a Printed circuit board I can supply, however I would think that many more have been bread-boarded by home constructors. Don... Don McKenzie donmck@labyrinth.net.au DonTronics Tullamarine, Australia http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~donmck Picosaurus-74. The 40 pin PICBasic with 8 channels of A-D, and real Uart. PIC Basic Compiler. Programmers from $15 US, and Pic-Axe: A New Tool.