Onat Ahmet wrote: > I posted a request for suggestions about which PIC16C84 programmer I started out using the programmer I posted to you. It works fine for start and exploration Circuit. I'm now using the Starter Kit supplied by microchip and the MPLAB software from the MICROCHIP site: http://motserv.indirect.com/home2/mothome.html I've also Explored a local ICE that includes an ICE hardware board using a PIC with dos based software. The also sell hardware and not software so u can look at the program for demo purposes.(Let me now if you are interested) This package also supports the typical 8051 Pseudo code that extends the PIC ease of programming. > be found! Otherwise, I will have to build all the programmers > to see for myself if they work properly or not! That's as far as my experience goes. Hope I've done better this time. Jattie van der Linde.