Well, I finally upgraded to MPLAB, and appears to be running OK. But, I have also started to use the provided assembler, and it is giving me warnings about using TRIS. Since I have been using the older version, I hadn't seen it before. But I do remember some traffic on the list, but looking thru the old saved messages, can't see anything. So, whats the proper way to define the ports directions. port_a equ 0x5 movlw 0x0F tris port_a I haven't had any problems, it it just says its not recommene ded.